Trump/Putin Summit, Alexa killing Siri, why tech stocks aren’t done and more

I’m in the RV with the family on our way to Red River, NM, to watch Michael Martin Murphy and camp out (no campfires with Amaris’s trachea tube still here though). You might recall I became a fan of MMMurphy a few weeks ago after hearing Spotify’s algorithms pick his 1972 tune “Geronimo’s Cadillac” out for me on a Discover Weekly playlist. It’s been a while since we’ve had a couple days off as a family so I won’t be writing again until Monday. See you then and have a great weekend.

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Speaker 1: Coming up on The Cody Willard Show, the Trump-Putin summit, a new Nasdaq record, the battle between Amazon’s Alexa and Siri, and your questions.

Cody Willard: Welcome, welcome, welcome, everybody to The Cody Willard Show. Live right now I hope on Facebook and YouTube, and you can find it every week at tradingwithcody.com, my esteemed colleague, Executive Producer, Chris McHugh, in the house. Thanks for joining me again, Chris. Let’s jump right into the show, man.

Chris McHugh: All right. Hey, let’s do it. So, Cody, everybody’s talking about that Putin-Trump summit in the press conference this week. What’s your take on that?

Cody Willard:Boy, surreal is how I worded it in my Trading With Cody post the other day when I talked about it. What’s crazy about not just the summit and the surreal press conference where Trump is clearly spoke in terms that he is now backtracking from if nothing else. What I think I’m getting at is it’s amazing the reporting, the coverage of that conference from both the left and the right, the Conservatives and the Liberals. Both have so much media that they can go to. You can read The Washington Post, you can read The New York Times, read Fox News if you’re Liberal and if you’re a Conservative, you read New York Post, Fox News, paper, please. All right. And so, what’s crazy is all of that mainstream media puts it through a partisan filter. I was even just listening as I was driving on Sirius XM to all of the CNNs, the CNBCs, the Fox News.

I typically don’t listen, or read, or watch. Well, I read everything, but I don’t watch partisan news on cable or even old net broadcast networks. But as I was listening to all of it, every conversation was you could tell partisan. Every reporter was partisan. The Liberals hated it. The Conservatives thought it was fine or were somehow trying to defend Trumps’ now seemingly indefensible. It’s sort of funny if you listen to the Conservatives trying to defend them and then they end up having to backtrack because Trump backtracked. That becomes a story in its own right. I keep talking about the fact that it’s … what I want to say was I was listening to Andrew Cuomo on CNN as I was driving home on something. I heard him talked the last five minutes of his show. He explicitly said, “We’ve got Republicans and we’ve got Democrats in this country, and we need them both to come together and …” da, da, da.

There’s not even an acknowledgment of a freethinker, of an independent. That was the most amazing thing out of that press conference and the summit. It was surreal. I mean, Trump really blew it. He should have been adamant. He should have been clear that he defends his country, that he believes that every law enforcement, every agency, federal agency that investigated this is … anybody who’s paying attention has seen that Russia is actively doing cyber stuff. They are on Facebook buying ads. There was no doubt that they bought racial-tinged ads during the election that were promoting Trump and/or Hillary. There was no doubt that I’m getting every day till this very day. Russian agents who have big boob pictures asking me to be their friend on Facebook. You’ve just got to acknowledge it. Trump had to backtrack clearly.

What’s also interesting though about how when Trump does a press conference reads from notes. It’s clear that there’s the formal message that he’s reading, that he knows The Washington Post, The New York Times, Fox News, and everyone will quote including his quote when he reads off of that one yesterday or that was it … yeah, yesterday morning, he had come back out and backtrack, and he reads the papers. But when he’s reading those papers, he’s speaking to his constituents whom his followers who want to believe that Trump is not a puppet. They want to believe that Trump isn’t just another corporate global regime Republican, Democrat. They want to believe he’s not controlled by a PR message so he’ll read that, and he’ll sit there, and wink to his constituents and his followers, that there’s a formal message, an informal message that he’s still speaking to them.

He’s not really believing what he’s reading. You guys know the truth. This is what he wants his followers to believe, that his followers know the truth, that he is not a global corporatist new world order Republican-Democrat regime which clearly he is. Look at his tax package. Look at everything he focuses on. Look at his tariffs. It’s all done for global corporations. There is too much partisan news. There is no free-thinking independent news. There’s nobody that’s going to talk to you about this in a manner that’s not shaded by partisanship. I strive every time I talk or write about anything political in this country with Republicans and Democrats reading it. I strive every time to explicitly highlight, that I am anti-partisan, that I am not speaking about Trump because I’m liberal. And so, therefore, I’m immediately going to hate everything Trump does.

I’m not going to sit here and pretend that I’m a Trump lover either or that I’m okay with Republicans at all. I’m not okay with Republicans or Democrats and neither should you be. I will tell you that I know just even at the restaurant on Saturday night after my first The Cody Show, The Cody Willard Show last week talking about this stuff. It’s several, people from very diverse demographics, rich, white, old people, middle-class, want-to-be-cowboy people, wealthy Mexican people who talked to me and they were all, “Hey, I just want you to know, Cody, I’m not really very happy about the Republican-Democrat stuff either.” I don’t want to vote Republican-Democrat anymore either.

You, guys, there is a movement out there, there is a reality, there is a truth of anti-partisanship but you have to let go of Cable News. You have to let go of corporate newspapers from New York Times, The Washington Post. You read them all but know that it’s partisan, know that it is tinged, that nobody on those platforms if anybody, maybe one or two, but almost nobody on those major platforms is even trying to speak truth. Next topic, Chris.

Chris McHugh: All right. What else we got here? We got Nasdaq. That’s not as liberal and conservative of a band, but it hit a new record this week even with Netflix getting hit 5% after reporting weaker than expected subscriber growth in their earnings.

Cody Willard: Well, well, well, turns out there’s a bubble blowing bull market going on in this world right now especially in the United States, most developing countries including China which the World Trade Organization still considers a developing country, is that it? That doesn’t make any sense. But, anyway, from China’s stock market, to the Mexican stock market, to most any other non-US stock market, they’re not hitting all-time highs. Even the Dow Jones Industrial Average is down 10% or so from its all-time highs a few months ago. But the technology … are we using technology right now? Yes. That is why I am such an adamant revolution investor. That is why I always want to try to use new technologies to communicate to the people out there even going back to the partisan news and the Trump stuff.

Cody Willard: I’ve been working with Bob Weir. I just saw Bob Weir last Wednesday night in Albuquerque. He’s on the road. There’s some footage I took of the show. Piper, my trusty partner went with me. Good show, right, Piper?

Piper: Salvation.

Cody Willard: We went backstage during the break and hung out with Bob on his bus. For years, since I left Fox News, actually, Bob and I have talked about trying to figure out how to take technology and create entirely new paradigm of news. It’s still burgeoning. What’s amazing about the app revolution and the internet revolution is it’s always going to be improving. 5G is going to enable new ways of broadcasting live streams, and virtual reality, and all these other really cool things. And so, Bob and I want to figure out. How can we create nonpartisan news using technology to change the world. See, that’s why I am a revolution investor. When it comes to my actual money and trying to invest in companies that are going to change the world, you’ve got to find the companies that are creating that technology, that then allows new applications, and no news networks and new ways for you and I to rise up and find truth.

Cody Willard: All ties in together and that is why Apple, Google, Facebook, Amazon, these things are driving technologies and platforms that all of us are then using to create new revolutions even societal political. We have to embrace all of that and that includes in your money with your portfolio. I’ve been a long Amazon, Google, Facebook, and Apple specifically for many years, The Four Horsemen of technology. I have called them repeatedly for many years, the Four Horsemen of technology and I always come back to the platforms that they’re building that then enables the rest of us in society to do new things and create our own revolutions.

Chris McHugh: Cody, I worked in radio. I started working out in radio. I wasn’t working out in radio like I was pumping iron, but I was working in radio, actually. There was a time in the ’90s where it was getting sucked into the television world as it pretty much did start doing the ’50s. As you went on with that, you think about how that medium changed and went to really talk radio, became the conservative niche. People complain right now these days about Fox News, MSNBC, CNBC, and the fact that they have a bent. But that really goes back to the old New York City newspapers where they were all backed by some type of political party. I always said as television got sucked into the online world, it’ll eventually … the ad dollars will move over online, everything, he’ll kind of become the way that it was before. We are seeing that because it is … we’re inundated now with a Google search with the mainstream media publications. Once again, they’re at the forefront. I even remember Google used to have a blog search. I knew that I could go finds my niche and this guy that was in his basement or whatnot and I can’t find them anymore, the same thing with the regular search result. But I, too, was talking to some people over drinks this weekend and they were talking about Joe Rogan. I’ve only seen some clips of him. But what everybody was saying that they liked about him is how he didn’t have this political bent. He was just this common-sense guy, and it was in the middle, and it kind of comes back to what you’re saying what we’re looking for. It’s so hard right now to find that middle-of-the-road content.

Cody Willard: It is, Chris. You made me think of the old Mark Twain phrase that history doesn’t repeat but it does rhyme. Secondly, I will say the biggest disappointment of my lifetime, I think, is that in my mind, I still am, frankly, an optimist that the truth will rise as distribution of content and distribution of news becomes free as you and I are able to sitter and speak truth to power without having to depend on power’s dollars. That is a disruption that never happened in mankind before. The pen has always been mightier than the sword, but the pen, and the typewriter, and creating content that could be widely distributed was impossible until the last 20 years. I hope that we’re still the very beginning of what will be a revolution of truth, and news, and a revolution of truth and a recognition of propaganda. But we’re 20 years into what I would consider 22 years since the start of the internet revolution really turned mainstream.

Cody Willard: Like you said, it’s almost like rewinding and rhyming and like Mark Twain would say in rhyming with the past which is a great disappointment, but don’t give up hope, people. Keep watching online stuff. Keep questioning mainstream stuff. By the way, question means online stuff and watch mainstream stuff. You got to consume at all as best you can. Be objective. Don’t ever get sucked into someone else’s opinion which is incredibly hard in this day and age when all of your parents and mine are either watching CNN or Fox News and being brainwashed that Republicans are great and Democrats are bad or vice versa. By the way, Republicans and Democrats all bad.

Chris McHugh: You know what, in our homes right now, I know you have A-L-E-X-A, so I don’t trip the keyword with everybody, but back to the mainstream, when you asked A-L-E-X-A what the weather is, or the news, or what not, you’re not going to get that obscure blog. That’s just another way that the company, for whatever device you’re using, is being a gatekeeper and selecting what they want to serve up to you. And then the little guy is certainly left out and that really segues into what I know that you had on the agenda which was Alexa, Google Assistant, Siri, Cody which you’ve been saying Alexa is the biggest existential threat to Apple. You want to talk a little bit more about that?

Cody Willard: Yeah. I mean, this is all sort of the same thing we’re hitting on today where technology companies are creating platforms that then we can revolutionize the world upon. The voice revolution is yet another one. It is as important as the app revolution or as the internet revolution because the ability to communicate as human beings typically do using voice with our online digital mass internet world is … I mean, just fast forwards, our ability to create, do new things, learn a hundredfold, sidestepping your correct recognition that there is a gatekeeper problem still and there will be forever as long as we’re using any platform that’s built by a company, whether it’s Alexa, or Siri, or Google assistant.

Piper: I don’t know that one.

Cody Willard: I know you don’t. She will though and that’s what’s amazing is that we are, right now, truly … maybe the first 20 years of the internet revolution is still the very third or fourth inning, but in the voice revolution, we’re in the first out of the first inning. Maybe third out of the first inning, but the point being that going back to how Alexa is actually the biggest existential threat to Apple is that Apple is already seeding, Apple is already seeding the voice revolution in this whole new paradigm of us interacting with the internet and each other to Amazon A-L-E-X-A and Google Assistant. As you look at the developers around the world, you even just go on Amazon Prime Day yesterday and there’s nobody that selling products that says Siri enabled. There are hundreds of thousands of products that say Alexa enabled. That is something that Apple is really going to have to fix quickly or they are going to end up being just like Microsoft was in the smartphone wars.

Cody Willard: You can have one or two, maybe three major platforms that all of the developers of the world will create their new applications and new cool things like, “Alexa, turn off Cody’s office stereo.” I was behind it, just turned it off. That’s a plug-in, a little Wi-Fi outlet that connects to the Wi-Fi and Alexa controls. Siri can’t do that. “Hey, Siri, do something valuable for me.” But I don’t even know what to ask Siri to do. “Hey, Siri, put something on my calendar.” I don’t know if it’ll do that. I know Alexa will. That stuff is happening right now and if Apple doesn’t fix it, they are doomed to miss out.

Siri: Okay. I found this on the web for “Do something valuable for me. But I don’t even know what to ask Siri to do. Hey, Siri, put something on my calendar.” Take a look.

Cody Willard: That’s really helpful, Siri. Thanks. She found something online.

Chris McHugh: I think she got a little upset with you.

Cody Willard: I’m upset with her. I would appreciate it if Siri would actually yell at me at some point.

Chris McHugh: Well, that’s what I was talking about, you know? It’s like, “Hey, you put something on the list, Alexa.” She’s like, “Do you really need to eat that much, fatty?” So, you know what, you were talking about what inning are we in and radio had about 30 years till television. Television had about, let me see, 40 years. Would it be interesting if we were halfway through already?

Cody Willard: You know though, Chris, the internet time makes everything move faster. So, every revolution and old cycles even like commodity cycles. Jim … I can’t think of his name, George Soros’s old partner, used to come on my show all the time, Jim Rogers, used to talk about how commodity cycles typically last 20 or 30 years. I’ve been talking for the last 20 years that he’s wrong because the internet changed old world cycles. And so, it happens, things happen 10 times or 100 times faster than they ever did before, but yes, maybe I’m wrong on that, too. Maybe the internet revolution is going to last 100 years.

Piper: That’s it.

Cody Willard: Thousand years. It’s like the pyramids. Cisco routers is the modern-day equivalent of the great pyramids. All right. Chris, let’s jump on next.

Chris McHugh: Okay, what have you got here. Oh, it’s the big question everybody’s been asking you. Is it too late to find new tenbaggers, stocks that go up 1,000%, Cody, please.

Cody Willard: Please Cody need new ideas, must get rich soon. No. Look, yeah, no, it’s not too late. It’s never too late. There are always new companies. There are always companies that have been crushed that you should be buying. There are always revolutions about to set into place that you could ride for 10 or 20 years like I’ve done with Apple, or Google, or Facebook for eight years, or Amazon for years, and Sony for years. You can find stocks. I’ve got a great portfolio at Trading With Cody that’s full of stocks that have gone up two, five, 10, 15 or even Apple going up 180 times, or Bitcoin going up 80 times since I bought it. There’s more. We can find the next ones. We’ve got to keep doing homework, but that being said, we have to recognize how hard it is to do that like 99% of the hedge fund managers on the planet can’t do that.

Cody Willard: 80% of Wall Street is marketing you a product. That’s all it is. It’s an infrastructure. Much of which has been built upon Republican-Democrat laws that force regulations like 401(k)s, and IRAs, and tax deductions, and you can have long-term gains, and short-term gains, and all that Bullsh, BS. I get emotional when I think about the redistribution of wealth that happens through the tax code when you tax poor people a lot more than rich people and then you pretend that poor people are on welfare when it’s the rich people and the giant corporations that are using welfare and programs to protect themselves. I forgot the question, Chris.

Chris McHugh: Tenbaggers, baby.

Cody Willard: Oh. Yeah, let’s think about something exciting, not angry. It is tough to find tenbaggers, but they’re out there. I’m looking every day for the next one. What I talked about yesterday when I got this question on Trading With Cody was that you have any idea how many times from 2012 to 2017 that I analyzed Under Armour, the stock, UA or UAA are the symbols depending on whether you want A class or C class shares, doesn’t matter which one you buy. They’re both going to go up with value if Under Armour does okay. But I analyzed that stock for five years and every time I like, “I love the the fact that they’re a stealth wearable play. They’re a stealth revolution technology company painting themselves as a retail athletic wear company. I never spent billions buying app companies. The whole time Under Armour was at $30, or $40, or $50 and it was training like eight, or 10, or 15 times sales.

Cody Willard: Even though I like the company, the opportunity wasn’t there. So I look at that stock over, and over, and over, and then, finally, it drops to $10 of share last year and now, I’m excited about it. There are other stocks that are doing that right now that I’m waiting to drop another 30%, or 40%, or 50%. If they do, I’ll be excited to buy them. But I can’t force it. I can’t just say, “Hey, every day here’s the stocks I think you should be buying right now that could go up 1,000%.” Yes, I own stocks that I still think like even Amazon. I think Amazon could go up another 500%. It could be a $4 trillion market cap. So there you go. There’s one. People are like, “Is it Amazon’s already gone up 10,000% or something, guys, since 1999 even from its top before the crash in the year 2000. Amazon’s up manyfold from those levels. I think you could up manyfold more. Chris?

Chris McHugh: Hey, you know what, we do Cody’s mailbag here. Last week, I had said that Cody did some silly where he types it up, and then mails it to me, and then I read it. So, I was having an argument with a friend this week and he’s like, “Oh, the price of the stamps are too much.” I said, “Well, you know what, then do it yourself.” So I had him drive all the way to New Mexico to Cody’s house, gas, rest areas, food he’s paying for.

Cody Willard: You let him stop at rest areas. I thought you’re going to make him wear diapers. What are you doing there?

Chris McHugh: You like that astronaut lady and then …

Cody Willard: Good catch. I was referencing the astronaut lady.

Chris McHugh: Thank you. Cody, wouldn’t even let this person stay at his house. They had to stay at some Knights Inn, or some Red Roof Inn, or something like that. Anyways, drove all the way back, days, days we finally get your mailbag here. Question number one, Cody. Do you have any interest in buying Broadcom after you just drop related to its acquisition of CA?

Cody Willard: No, in no way, shape, or form do I have any interest in ever owning AVGO Broadcom whatever I have to go, whatever you want to call it. For many years, I almost wanted to own Broadcom, but the fact of the matter is when they said they were going out here to buy, you remember that they got blocked from buying Qualcomm. Now, they’re out there buying Computer Associates which is not a chip company. I mean, it has nothing to do with Broadcom. Meanwhile, the Broadcom shorts for years. They have go shorts. The guys who bet against AVGO have been saying that AVGO looks like a evil roll-up, doesn’t have real fundamentals. Unless they keep rolling up new companies constantly, they’re going to start missing their numbers. I’ve seen a lot of companies over the years that are pure roll-ups. One of the first lessons I had on Wall Street working for the great late Andrew Lanyi was you don’t want to buy those roll-ups.

Cody Willard: He bought some of those roll-ups and that’s how I learned the lesson. Snyder Communications is one. He sold his to another roll-up in order for him to … Dan Snyder to buy the Washington Redskins. The roll-up that bought his roll-up got crushed. Roll-ups typically do get crush. You don’t want companies that exist to roll up other companies. It’s a financial gimmickry game and it doesn’t usually work out for shareholders because the guys who are doing the financial gimmicks probably don’t have your best interests at heart, probably doing CYA and trying to get really rich off your pockets. So, stay away from AVGO. If anything that Computer Associates acquisition I think proves out that the shorts have been right the whole time, that there’s something not cool going on at AVGO. I would avoid it.

Chris McHugh: All right, Cody, got another great one here. “I have approximately 4% in Gold Miners ETF and I’m approximately breakeven. I’m ready to throw in the towel and sell it. Should I treat it as a contrarian indicator? I’m holding the position for about three years now, they say.” He says finally or she, “If I’m to sell, should I put money aside to money market or invest in some particular stock right away?”

Cody Willard: Number one, no, you should never just sell something in order to buy something else right away. If there’s something that you should be investing in right now, you should be investing in it. You shouldn’t have to sell something else in order to invest that money. You gotta have a bigger term picture than that. Think out over the next 10,000 days, the next 30 days of your year, 30 years of your life and try to maximize risk reward over that timeframe. That would never tell selling something immediately, having to buy something else with that money or something. Now, gold, what’s gold? You’re talking about Bitcoin, I assume?

Chris McHugh: I don’t know.

Cody Willard: Gold?

Chris McHugh: Gold, Au.

Cody Willard: I don’t know what’s gold. Are you talking about the shiny metal stuff? Nobody talks about shiny metal gold. Oh my God, gold, Piper, you have gold? No, Piper does actually buy gold.

Chris McHugh: I’m William Devane.

Cody Willard: The point I’m trying to make is nobody’s buying gold right now and nobody even cares about though right now. Everybody loves Bitcoin cryptocurrencies right now and everybody wants to talk about cryptominers. So I like the fact that this question is actually about gold and gold miners. Now, I don’t like gold mining stocks, I never have. If I’m going to buy a gold stock, gold’s down, two bucks, 1,200, thank you, Piper. The gold miners, you have to go … if you want to invest in a gold mining, you need to go meet the management. You need to go see the company. You need to see their minds or don’t. If you want to invest in gold, buy gold, okay? Now, beyond that, occasionally, you can buy the GDX which is an ETF made up of a lot of gold miner stocks. That is often in the short term, say, over three days to six-month timeframes, a very high beta, highly volatile representation of the gold market itself.

Cody Willard: So, if the price of gold goes from 1,250 to 1,450 and it goes up, what is that, 18% or something. Gold miners will go up 30%, or 40%, or 50%. But when gold drops from 1,350 to 1,200, the gold miners will drop 30%, 40%, or 50%, too. So, look, like I am right now starting to get bullish on gold itself as a trade, not that I’m going to personally make any big trades and gold or something, but I own gold coins for the long term but I might even consider gold as a good trade here. If it gets below 1,200 in the next few months, I think buying gold as a trade would be good in addition to just investing in a little bit of gold for the long term.

Chris McHugh: “Cody, I love the game Asteroids and I love Platinum which brings me to a great viewer question here. What’s your opinion on investing in Asteroid mining? I know it’s a gamble, but would you classify it as the same thing as investing in Bitcoin when you invested in Bitcoin the first time?”

Cody Willard: It’s an interesting question because, yes, I absolutely believe in the ability for people to mine Asteroids. I mentioned it when I got this question yesterday on Trading With Cody that few months ago, Goldman Sachs did a report that said the first trillionaire to exist on this planet would be an Asteroid miner, who would own an Asteroid mining company. Yeah, I nourish gold and then Asteroids. Alexa, play Pink Floyd Gold in the Hills.

Chris McHugh: Alexa, please don’t. We’re going to have a copyright deal with YouTube.

Cody Willard: Oh, yeah. Don’t do it, Alexa. Darn it, that’s a good song though. Very undiscovered Pink Floyd tune, one of my favorites at any rate. There’s gold in them Asteroids, and there is oil, and there is platinum, and there are …

Chris McHugh: Lots of water, I hear.

Cody Willard: All kinds of stuff that we’re going to need to run driverless cars in the next 5,000, 300 years.

Piper: Hair dryers.

Cody Willard: Hair dryers. Hair conditioners.

Chris McHugh: You mean that they’re already there, the asteroids, and I just have to take them out?

Cody Willard: The air dryers are in the asteroids. It’s waiting for you.

Chris McHugh: This is great.

Cody Willard: Outlets and everything. Driverless hair dryers, good one, Piper.

Cody Willard: For a retail investor to be able to profit and invest successfully in Asteroid mining in the year 2018 is impossible. It has nothing to do with like I did buying bitcoins as a retail investor five or six years ago at 100. You could have done that. Neither one of us can go invest in an Asteroid company that’s actually mining Asteroids right now. So, no, don’t try to invest in Asteroid mining right now. Yes in 10, or 20, 50 years when Asteroid mining companies exist then we go, “Yeah, go to tradingwithcody.com in the year 2058 and I’ll probably have two or three Asteroid mining companies in my portfolio. Hopefully, all of which went up 1,000%.

Chris McHugh: You know what, it got a little kooky there on that segment, I apologize, and certainly my friends at the yacht club will convey their distaste to me this weekend about that. So, we want to apologize to ever …

Cody Willard: I never wouldn’t have sent the boys at the yacht club.

Chris McHugh: However, it’s not getting any more straight-laced here because the next question, the final question that we have in Cody’s mailbag is you know what, the last episode, we did, I totally edited out all the voices that I did. But this one warrants it, I feel like and the question is, “Cody, dude, what’s the first concert you ever went to, bro?”

Cody Willard: That’s pretty good, that’s pretty good. First concert ever … Piper, which first concern you ever went to?

Piper: Pat Benatar, Love is a Battlefield.

Cody Willard: Pat Benatar Love is a Battlefield. I’m guessing ’88. What were you 14, 13?

Piper: Oh, gosh, I was like, yeah, 10.

Cody Willard: Yeah. Your dad took you. Yeah, first concert I ever was going to go was KISS concert with my parents when I was like eight. My dad was going to take my brother and me to KISS concert at least that’s what they tell us. I don’t even sure if that’s true because we didn’t end up going supposedly because my brother got osteomyelitis in his heel. So we didn’t get to see KISS. But I’m not even … I don’t know that my dad could have even walked into a KISS concert. I don’t think he was wired like that, two kids with him, that’s a lot.

Chris McHugh: He had what now? Osteomyelitis?

Cody Willard: Osteomyelitis. it’s a infection of the bone.

Chris McHugh: Oh. Oh, wow.

Cody Willard: Yeah, he was playing football or something and got cut deep and it got … whatever. Point being, he’s fine. He went on to play high school football or all this, you know.

Chris McHugh: I bring it up because they did a study. It turns out that the blood from Gene Simmons’ mouth actually cures that. So had he gone to the counselor in the front row, everything would have been fine.

Cody Willard: Ironically, I actually had a … I got late many years later, 25 years later, I was front row and backstage with KISS at a KISS-Aerosmith concert in New York City. Someone gave me the blood rag that Gene had used to wipe the blood up that night. They gave it to me in a plastic baggie and I had that bag, never thought about curing diseases with it, but an ex-girlfriend did accidentally throw it out when she was cleaning my closet once. First concert that went to pavement 1990.

Chris McHugh: Looked to you and have a bloody bag in your closet when you’re dating somebody. Anyway, back to pavement.

Cody Willard: You can see why she threw it out. I should have written KISS, please key Gene Simmons … not that I care that much.

Chris McHugh: That’s why they have the little label. You use the sharpie and you can catch your blood bag.

Cody Willard: I blew it. I blew it. Gene Simmons’ blood bag …

Piper: You could have cloned it.

Cody Willard: Got to clone Gene Simmons.

Chris McHugh: Piper again, man. He’s on fire. Gosh, man, rocking it. Who else is rocking it was Pavement though?

Cody Willard: Pavement 1993, I didn’t go to a concert on I was like 21 years old and I just … I was so focused on playing hoops, being a basketball want to be and, again, my dad … but my parents were not exactly concert-going types. So Pavement … I can’t even think the lead singer’s name now. But, anyway, I’ve enjoyed Pavement ever since. It’s great concert. It’s in the tiny little venue in [inaudible 00:42:00] with like probably 30 people in the whole show. I probably been to, I’m guessing, 200 concerts in my life since then. That was one of the best. That’s a good one. That’s so much. That is The Cody Willard Show. Thank you to my executive producer. Can I be co-executive producer with you, Chris?

Chris McHugh: You could be whatever you want. I was going to be your producing stylist just for this episode though. I don’t want it to be continual.

Cody Willard: I might start referencing you often as my producing stylist. At any rate, my co-executive producer, co-chief executive producer Chris McHugh, thanks. Piper, my main man partner over here, business partner, thank you. Thank you for tuning in, everybody. Peace, love, and happiness.